Learning to cut themselves off from nurturance – even from desiring it – becomes a way of defending themselves against further hurts and frustrations. This explains their reluctance to become more emotionally engaged with others. To leave the safety of their minds, to reoccupy the body and feelings, is to re-experience the primal frustration and anguish of their infant selves. Such feelings completely overwhelm a 5’s capacity to focus their mind – their basis of self-confidence – and are therefore powerfully defended against. Even to want something ordinary too much could upset their inner security; thus adult 5s go through life avoiding the things they most want, repressing their longing and finding substitute pleasures in their interests, hobbies, and creativity.